My first design
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				Xanadu
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A word of warning about the motor box design.
The Great Planes motor box design is flawed, and will separate from motor vibration, etc. You will need to reinforce the box with fiberglass and epoxy.
There is a tech note on the GP site about this flaw, and how they recommend repairing it.
I also know of this flaw first hand, as I have the GP ASF of the DR1. Kept breaking the mount until I did the fiberglass and epoxy repair.
There is even a video of the this actually happening during flight about 1/2 way down the linked page.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=657521
I would like you to seriously consider reinforcing the motor box.
			
			
									
						
										
						The Great Planes motor box design is flawed, and will separate from motor vibration, etc. You will need to reinforce the box with fiberglass and epoxy.
There is a tech note on the GP site about this flaw, and how they recommend repairing it.
I also know of this flaw first hand, as I have the GP ASF of the DR1. Kept breaking the mount until I did the fiberglass and epoxy repair.
There is even a video of the this actually happening during flight about 1/2 way down the linked page.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=657521
I would like you to seriously consider reinforcing the motor box.
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				scigs30
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Xanadu, Most of these ARFs fail because of poor glue joints, and from what I read, that is the case with the Fokker.  Great Planes recommends using thin CA to reinforce the glue joint, another bad idea.  Wood glue or epoxy should be used on a plywood to balsa wood joint, hot glue and CA is a poor choice.   The few pictures I have seen of the failure is a failure of the joint and not the wood itself.  I take it a step further and brush Epoxy on the motor mount just like we used to with the old RC Gas planes. Thanks for the heads up, I will also take a second look at the design.
			
			
									
						
										
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				Xanadu
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I used epoxy and fiberglass strips, making it pretty much bullet proof now.
One thing I did find, was there was not quite enough meat on the face plate, too many holes weakening the structure making it prone to cracking. I epoxied and glassed the front as well. The extra weight it added was not even noticeable with the power the Rimfire motor provided.
			
			
									
						
										
						One thing I did find, was there was not quite enough meat on the face plate, too many holes weakening the structure making it prone to cracking. I epoxied and glassed the front as well. The extra weight it added was not even noticeable with the power the Rimfire motor provided.
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				scigs30
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To date I have not owned an ARF, not do I plan on it, too many kits out there to build.  I have seen plenty at the flying field since that is all anyone ever flies and they all have the same issues.  The covering looks great at 5 feet but up close there are som obvious issues, but not a big deal.  The biggest thing I have noticed is that it appears the plane is put together dry then glue is added, not an effective glue joint.  I used wood glue on my mount followed by Expoxy reinforcement and spruce braces, so that should be strong enough.
I have most of the build complete with some minor adjustments and final sanding. I will also go back and make the necessary adjustments and measurements to the plans and parts. The Great Planes parts fit well and you can see from the pictures my complicated wing jig, duct tape and clamps.














			
			
									
						
										
						I have most of the build complete with some minor adjustments and final sanding. I will also go back and make the necessary adjustments and measurements to the plans and parts. The Great Planes parts fit well and you can see from the pictures my complicated wing jig, duct tape and clamps.














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				Supercubber95
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				scigs30
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RC equipment can be cheap or expensive. A lot of the guys at the flying club are buying cheap rc gear from Hobbyking.  Radio, receiver, batteries, servos, ESC can run 100 to 500 dollars depending on the quality and personal preference.
The pilot and plastic parts were bought on Ebay, Great Planes makes the parts for their ARF.
			
			
									
						
										
						The pilot and plastic parts were bought on Ebay, Great Planes makes the parts for their ARF.
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				scigs30
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				Supercubber95
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 Can you tell me where to get the little pilot from, Please.                                           B R Burns  (Barrie)                                       I am in the U.K.
 Can you tell me where to get the little pilot from, Please.                                           B R Burns  (Barrie)                                       I am in the U.K.











