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yellowlynn · Post by **yellowlynn** » Thu May 26, 2011 2:46 pm

I have the B-25 kit 805. You'll understand in a minute why I started a new thread. First, I'm 81, and the last balsa and paper kit I built was nearly 65 years ago. In the late 30s nickle models were all I could afford. This model I have now is QUITE different in construction.
First off, what is laser cut? I see cuts around some of the parts, but no lines. I have good vision, but need magnifying glasses and look at an angle to see that there are cuts. Am I missing something?

I have lots more questions, but I'll just use these as a starter.

Thanks for any and all help
Lynn
Whitehouse, Tx

peterc4 · Post by **peterc4** » Thu May 26, 2011 3:57 pm

Nickel kits...wow...the B-25 kit price must have given you sticker-shock.

Laser cut wood has a brown burn line around the parts. Die-cut parts don't show the brown line. You can actually see it pretty clearly in this post:

http://balsamodels.com/phpBB/viewtopic. ... de461d29d5

Hope this helps!

Hats off for tackling the B-25!

-p

yellowlynn · Post by **yellowlynn** » Thu May 26, 2011 5:00 pm

Whoa, Peterc4, I haven't started on that B-25 yet. I spent the last couple weeks trying to figure out how this thing goes together. I think I got it, but-----. My problem now is how to get the part cut out. The photo shows the cuts better, but it would help with lines. Does anyone have a tip on how to cut the parts out with barely seeing a cut. Help !!!

Lynn (Sorry, I don't know how to post a picture)[/url]

Squishyp38 · Post by **Squishyp38** » Thu May 26, 2011 5:57 pm

Welcome back to the hobby!
You must use a different meaning for the term "Old timer'!"

groundlooped · Post by **groundlooped** » Thu May 26, 2011 6:48 pm

Lynn,the kit is die cut,and yes, the die-cut sheet parts are not always easy to see clearly,you will need to use a modelling knife to cut the partially die "crunched" parts loose from the balsa sheet, some parts will practically fall out ,others can be a little more difficult,try gently twisting or bending the part sheets very slightly should show where to cut.When I read your first post I raced out to my shed to grab my b25 kit, and yeah some parts are a bit hard to define.having said that the b25 is a big kit to be starting with! I think starting with a simpler, less complex kit such as the 900 series,or, if you want to go with the laser-cut kits, go with something like the 500 series zero and follow scig30 build,you can't go wrong there.look through the various threads here,you'll find plenty of 'how-to'posts and keep asking for advice with build problems there is always some- one with a solution.
Hope this helps a bit
Cheers Col

yellowlynn · Post by **yellowlynn** » Thu May 26, 2011 6:52 pm

OK. I reckon there is no way for me to post a pic. I have sheets of balsa with cuts for parts, and in these parts are nomenclatures like D6, C3, B4, etc. Trouble is, there are no lines, and the cuts are very difficult to see. The example you posted is what I was accustomed to, but cuts with no lines,-egads. These old eyes need magnifying glasses to see the cuts and then try to cut them out. I think I may have to pass on this model. Are most of Guillow's models this way? Or do they come with lines?

Yep, nickel and dime kits were the norm back then. They were a joy to build. I only wish they still made that size regardless of cost. Eventually I got to where I could get a quarter size model every once in a while.

Lynn

groundlooped · Post by **groundlooped** » Thu May 26, 2011 9:47 pm

G'day Lynn, ok,from reading your last post I think you will do better by going to the old type print-wood kits, many old kits here www.pennvalleymodelcenter.com I'm sure you'll find some of the old kits reproduced here. This is an old-time model shop, I buy most of my kits and bulk rubber supplies from them
Cheers Col

BillParker · Post by **BillParker** » Fri May 27, 2011 8:16 am

Here's some build photos that may be helpful:

http://www.parkerinfo.com/ap65.htm

send me a note if there's something I can help you with...

bp

yellowlynn · Post by **yellowlynn** » Fri May 27, 2011 9:04 am

AHAAA!!!! "Phantabulas" I've got it. I have evesdropped on thgis forum for some time until I finally got registered. The builders here are absolutely the greatest. I got the amswers I needed, lightly sanding the backs to release the parts. Then the step-by-step on the build. These are not any more difficult than 70 years ago, just a bit different.

I don't imagine anyone here has heard of 'Ottoformers', a method brought out by Joe Ott to conserve on balsa during the war. Build a 'square' body shape, then slide shaped cardboard formers over the body to hold the stringers.

Thank you fellas very much. I think now I can get started, but I'm sure I'll have scads more questions.

Lynn

John G Jedinak · Post by **John G Jedinak** » Fri May 27, 2011 10:11 am

Yellowlynn: Welcome to us modelers who really do "Remember Pearl Harbor". Suggest you also join up with Virtual Aerodrome...linked here. Also would suggest you consider a magnification Loupe...4X-headband w/tilting visor. I'm almost 78 and can't build w/o them...Luck, JGJ

Squishyp38 · Post by **Squishyp38** » Fri May 27, 2011 11:17 am

Lynn- You remind me of my favorite substitute teacher at my school. His name is Mr. Swift, and he is 82 years old! He is still subbing at the school, and he smokes at least 2 large cigars out in the parking lot of the school every day!

BillParker · Post by **BillParker** » Fri May 27, 2011 11:27 am

like these?

http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywor ... avep2e76_b

which do you reccomend?

(wonderful idea, thank you very much!)

John G Jedinak · Post by **John G Jedinak** » Fri May 27, 2011 11:37 am

Bill/Yellowlynn: I have the light weight Lactona Magnification Loupe 4 power adjustable visor & headband. Cost a bit more. Go to:

WWW.Pankey.Org and "Search" Lactona.......Thanx, JGJ

John G Jedinak · Post by **John G Jedinak** » Fri May 27, 2011 11:42 am

CORRECTION!!!!!! Make that:

www.pankey.org/store

Sorry about that............JGJ

BillParker · Post by **BillParker** » Fri May 27, 2011 11:46 am

Okay so this one, right?

https://www.pankey.org/store/products/L ... or%29.html