Elmer's old and new

CedarBranchFisher · Post by **CedarBranchFisher** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:51 pm

I was in Lowe's today. Titebond comes in about 4 strengths plus a couple of other formulations.

StefanJ · Post by **StefanJ** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 5:04 pm

There are actually five strengths of Titebond.

Titebond Maximum Strength Professional Formula Extreme is only sold to people who have taken a written test, posted a $500 bond, and provided proof of Inadvertent Adhesion Insurance.

Lowe's and Home Depot both carry it, but they'll totally deny this.

scigs30 · Post by **scigs30** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:03 pm

http://modelrocketbuilding.blogspot.com ... rmula.html
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1394996

scigs30 · Post by **scigs30** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:08 pm

I am also intrested to hear what others think. I use White glue for everthing, Rockets, FF, RC and wood working and Elmers is or was a great all purpose glue. I have not tried covering with the new Elmers but I am currently using thinned white Titebond with good results. LIke I said, for FF any white glue should be fine.....

CedarBranchFisher · Post by **CedarBranchFisher** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:02 pm

My apologies. I had read earlier in another thread were someone asked where they could find Titebond. Couldn't remember which thread it was, or remember much else for that matter.

cliffm · Post by **cliffm** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:07 pm

When I first started building I bought a bulk bottle of elmers wood glue using it until it got very low (about 6 builds) so I went to the same hardware to get the same thing and there it was, gone. Well, this is when I found out there are more than one type of elmers. I than bought some "glue all" which I did'nt like as well as the wood glue but I used it with satisfactory results after some mixture adjustment trials. With a little experimenting and playing with thinning formulas I have gotten satisfactory results with some 4-5 different glues even mixing in acrylics in the sealer coats. DON'T mix in alcohol or ammonia with it as it will curdle the mix and it gets fun cleaning from airbrushes and regular brushes as well. Bottom line being most water soluble glues should be adaptable for covering on our stick and tissue models and have good results. Just try it on a sample piece until you find out what works,brand names are not a religious requirement.

rayd · Post by **rayd** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:03 pm

Scigs30...your first rocketry site shows a simple test we can try if desired. I also noticed another variable. Latest 4 oz. bottles I have of "New Stonger Formula" are marked Made in U.S.A. (whatever that means now). Just prior, regular Glue All 4 oz I have marked "Made in Canada." Seems glue in that rocketry site (from 2010) has slightly different label and text said old one is Made in China! Another in the mix? maybe like local bottlers eg Coke and Pepsi. Perhaps more countries involved as mfrs. May be interesting if Elmers fans check their 4 oz bottles, like a poll.

FYI, when I bought New Elmers, also bought local store brand in same supermarket. Same general look, bottle, size, etc (not school glue either). It was cheaper and marked Made in China. Hmm...possible some store brands, which differ in USA/Canada, who buy from supplier of old Elmers?? Who knows, but the simple test (I'll call it the poor man's test, especially good for retirees or others on a budget) might try it....looks easy enough. Maybe try your local supermarket clone all purpose white glue. Say, Guillows, FYI, I bought mine at a local Stop & Shop, their Smart Living house brand All Purpose Glue...head office/stores near you if you'd like to try.

Many thanks to those who can add further to this discussion, Scigs30 and David Duckett for posting and holding thread firm. Thanks. Collectively, we'll work this out, and no, I'm not giving up the hobby. There are always options. Turns out though that a good Elmers was readily available, versatile, colorless, near odorless, innexpensive... a good deal overall.