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To scallop or not to scallop, That is the question!
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tail spin
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To scallop or not to scallop, That is the question!
Hello everyone I wanted to pick a few brains after reading about Balsa FF Modelers using the method of "Scalloping" the formers. Does it weaken the structure, and if tissueing a fuse in partial patches as some of the 500 series requires should it be done at all? Or as a display model only ? I understand it lightens the airframe & every gram counts. Being that I am a newbie & trying to down load so much of the building technique in my head for a successful build. I would appreciate some enlightenment on the pro's & con's of the subject if someone wouldn't mind taking the time to explain. I did do a search on the forum on this subject & that is how I found out what scalloping was & not the custom paint jobs on old lead sled automobiles!
Thank you for any replies!
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Wildpig
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Re: To scallop or not to scallop, That is the question!
Personally, never used the scallop technique. I know that method is used on some full size wooden aircraft. The Fairchild 24 being one of them. I sure it does reduce some weight and improves appearance.
I don't think it would prove to be any real difficulty as far as tissuing goes.
I don't think it would prove to be any real difficulty as far as tissuing goes.
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David Lewis
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Re: To scallop or not to scallop, That is the question!
It's usually lighter not to scallop. In the upper picture stress is higher and evenly distributed (wood works harder). In the lower picture, the wood below the red dashed line experiences lower stress (loafs).
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tail spin
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Re: To scallop or not to scallop, That is the question!
Thank you for your replies.
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Bill Gaylord
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Re: To scallop or not to scallop, That is the question!
I don't think anyone mentioned scalloping for scale appearance, to hide the formers from showing through the covering. I did this on the Stearman fuse and it was worth the effort. Some of the laser cut kits have the stringer depth intentionally cut at 1/32" to produced the same effect.
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Konrad
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Re: To scallop or not to scallop, That is the question!
Do scallop, but plan it out a head of time. Some section of the covering will need the former at full outline to attach the covering. If you are using tissue I strongly recommend the full length strip method spanning 2 or 3 stringers. I never liked the former to former method often shown on the Guillow plans it leads to that starved horse look.
I've tried to give some guidance on how to place stringers and prep the fuselage for covering here.
http://www.hippocketaeronautics.com/hpa ... ic=12443.0
All the best,
Konrad
I've tried to give some guidance on how to place stringers and prep the fuselage for covering here.
http://www.hippocketaeronautics.com/hpa ... ic=12443.0
All the best,
Konrad
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Wildpig
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Re: To scallop or not to scallop, That is the question!
I assumed he was talking about this:David Lewis wrote:It's usually lighter not to scallop. In the upper picture stress is higher and evenly distributed (wood works harder). In the lower picture, the wood below the red dashed line experiences lower stress (loafs).
http://www.virtualaerodrome.com/image_d ... offset=216
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tail spin
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Re: To scallop or not to scallop, That is the question!
To begin with , Wow ! Ask & you shall receive! I want to thank everyone for all of the replies it has answered my question 100% very nicely! All Y'all are great people & Thank you very much!
Konrad, Thank you for the link on your post lots to read & take in A big two thumbs up on that! Again thank you to every reply and not to leave anyone out! Amazing how differences in weight can be so dramatic. Time to hit the bench!
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Konrad
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Re: To scallop or not to scallop, That is the question!
That is why we are here, to help.
I think what you want starts on reply #6 of the fore mentioned thread.
I think what you want starts on reply #6 of the fore mentioned thread.
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tail spin
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Re: To scallop or not to scallop, That is the question!
Thank you Sir!