HI, Im new to this forum and I am now starting to convert this marvaelous kit to R/C. My question is this, has anyone ever done this before? and if so, I could use as much help as possable.
Thanks in advance
P-38 Lighting 2 R/C
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birddog
P-38 engines
Yes, the P-38 engines rotated in opposite directions. Viewed from the cockpit the right propeller rotated in the normal direction, clockwise. Left propeller, counter-clockwise.. With DC electric motors it's a simple matter of reversing the polarity to the motor. 2 stroke gas engines can run in both directions.
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Goindwnswingn
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Re: P-38 engines
[quote="birddog"]Yes, the P-38 engines rotated in opposite directions. Viewed from the cockpit the right propeller rotated in the normal direction, clockwise. Left propeller, counter-clockwise.. With DC electric motors it's a simple matter of reversing the polarity to the motor. 2 stroke gas engines can run in both directions.[/quote]Did yo ever start on your F4U4 corsair? I recently purchased the large version and want to make it an RC. This is my first kit and will be starting it in a few days.
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supercruiser
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F4U progress
Yes, I started the Corsair. However, I did something you are trying to avoid, that is backtracking on previous work. I originally, was going to make it free flight with a Cox .049 engine. Then the project got shelved for about 5 years.
Now micro servos are available at low prices , so I decided to go micro RC.
with a norvel .061 engine. Had to cut the wings and make provision for movable ailerons. Had not started the tail, so it was easy just to make the sheet balsa surfaces as per the Control LIne plans. Had to make accomadations for a separate fuel tank in the nose of the plane. the cox engine had it's own tank. I've got all the stuff to
finish, I think working a couple of evenings a week, I could have it done by July. Got so many other obligations that I think it might be this time next year when I finish. Not sure if I'll put retracts or not. Got to make that decision before too long.
Birddog
Now micro servos are available at low prices , so I decided to go micro RC.
with a norvel .061 engine. Had to cut the wings and make provision for movable ailerons. Had not started the tail, so it was easy just to make the sheet balsa surfaces as per the Control LIne plans. Had to make accomadations for a separate fuel tank in the nose of the plane. the cox engine had it's own tank. I've got all the stuff to
finish, I think working a couple of evenings a week, I could have it done by July. Got so many other obligations that I think it might be this time next year when I finish. Not sure if I'll put retracts or not. Got to make that decision before too long.
Birddog
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Goindwnswingn
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Re: F4U progress
[quote="supercruiser"]Yes, I started the Corsair. However, I did something you are trying to avoid, that is backtracking on previous work. I originally, was going to make it free flight with a Cox .049 engine. Then the project got shelved for about 5 years.
Now micro servos are available at low prices , so I decided to go micro RC.
with a norvel .061 engine. Had to cut the wings and make provision for movable ailerons. Had not started the tail, so it was easy just to make the sheet balsa surfaces as per the Control LIne plans. Had to make accomadations for a separate fuel tank in the nose of the plane. the cox engine had it's own tank. I've got all the stuff to
finish, I think working a couple of evenings a week, I could have it done by July. Got so many other obligations that I think it might be this time next year when I finish. Not sure if I'll put retracts or not. Got to make that decision before too long. So, Birdog, what information did you use to set up all the extras involved in making it into an RC or is it just get creative and improvise and alot of ingenuity? I am very mechanically inclined and have actually worked on fullsize airplane structure, such as airframe, aluminum paneling, and alot of fabric work but this is still going to be a challenge without instructions for setting up the electronics, and all involved with the RC. This is my very first but I love the challence and know I can do it. I almost got the larger version with 60" wing span but now I see this is even a large first step for a beginner. Thanks for the infor, I am sure I will be using this forum for quite some time. By the way, who long did it take you to build the basic plane, from start to paint.
Birddog[/quote]
Now micro servos are available at low prices , so I decided to go micro RC.
with a norvel .061 engine. Had to cut the wings and make provision for movable ailerons. Had not started the tail, so it was easy just to make the sheet balsa surfaces as per the Control LIne plans. Had to make accomadations for a separate fuel tank in the nose of the plane. the cox engine had it's own tank. I've got all the stuff to
finish, I think working a couple of evenings a week, I could have it done by July. Got so many other obligations that I think it might be this time next year when I finish. Not sure if I'll put retracts or not. Got to make that decision before too long. So, Birdog, what information did you use to set up all the extras involved in making it into an RC or is it just get creative and improvise and alot of ingenuity? I am very mechanically inclined and have actually worked on fullsize airplane structure, such as airframe, aluminum paneling, and alot of fabric work but this is still going to be a challenge without instructions for setting up the electronics, and all involved with the RC. This is my very first but I love the challence and know I can do it. I almost got the larger version with 60" wing span but now I see this is even a large first step for a beginner. Thanks for the infor, I am sure I will be using this forum for quite some time. By the way, who long did it take you to build the basic plane, from start to paint.
Birddog[/quote]
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Goindwnswingn
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New guy
Sorry about my technique with this forum, I am also new to the computer, so my apologies go out to everyone.
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supercruiser
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F4u
Yep, you picked a hard one for a first time build. But, your mechanical background and patience will go a long way to completing it. My approach to the R/C conversion is just a lot of guesswork and intuition. If you go to the Guillow's homepage , there is section for building supplies. check the books tab. there is a book by Don Ross on electric r/c and other such things.
So far on the Corsair I have the wings framed up and the fuselage framed but, no sheeting on nose(I plan on reinforcing the forward fuselage with 1/32 inch balsa sheet) and cut and sanded the sheet balsa tail surfaces. I would say that it took about 20 to 25 hours to do that. Next, I need to paint the entire structure with fuel proof dope. I plan on covering it with tissue and then spraying with Navy blue dope overall. Most folks would say to use monokote. But, I like the old methods. Maybe one day I'll keep a work log when I build these models.
So far on the Corsair I have the wings framed up and the fuselage framed but, no sheeting on nose(I plan on reinforcing the forward fuselage with 1/32 inch balsa sheet) and cut and sanded the sheet balsa tail surfaces. I would say that it took about 20 to 25 hours to do that. Next, I need to paint the entire structure with fuel proof dope. I plan on covering it with tissue and then spraying with Navy blue dope overall. Most folks would say to use monokote. But, I like the old methods. Maybe one day I'll keep a work log when I build these models.
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javisegura
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I don't know if this pics may help you, my plane is not finished yet... I will post more pictures when it done... http://s52.photobucket.com/albums/g11/j ... h=imgAnch1
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Xanadu
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Xanadu
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I have an B-29 foam electric plane I bought early in the summer. It flys via 2 channel RC, on 4 electric motors........and very well indeed.
The plane "steers" through thrust differential, meaning when you want to turn, you press the toggle switch to the direction you to go, and the opposite side engines speed up, turning the plan.......!
To climb, just give it more throttle, to decend, less throttle. The engines are tilted downward a good 10 degrees at least, and force the wing to have lift. But if left in full throttle, it climbs so steep after a while it will stall, so ya gotta be careful.
Best $50 worth of fun I ever got!
Anyways, I just bought another one, and plan on taking the first ones engines, etc, and maybe modifying the B-17 to utilize them, or try on a smaller 2 engine model.
The foam B-29 is quite a big heavier than one would think, and I know none of the Guillows would come close to being as heavy, so I think it has a good chance of working out!
The plane "steers" through thrust differential, meaning when you want to turn, you press the toggle switch to the direction you to go, and the opposite side engines speed up, turning the plan.......!
To climb, just give it more throttle, to decend, less throttle. The engines are tilted downward a good 10 degrees at least, and force the wing to have lift. But if left in full throttle, it climbs so steep after a while it will stall, so ya gotta be careful.
Best $50 worth of fun I ever got!
Anyways, I just bought another one, and plan on taking the first ones engines, etc, and maybe modifying the B-17 to utilize them, or try on a smaller 2 engine model.
The foam B-29 is quite a big heavier than one would think, and I know none of the Guillows would come close to being as heavy, so I think it has a good chance of working out!
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The Flying Panda
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P38 Lightning
I too am workn on a p38 conversion to rc. My aircraft is coming along slowly. There are a few things to know what u want and what u dont,
How many channels do u need and is it gas or electric? Mine will have electric engines which will each be on their own channel to help turn left and right my servos are located in the main wing and in the booms the rudders each will be linked into one channel once adjusted the landing gear i have not decided on however it is built retractable according to the plans and the covering is ultra coat for more streangth and less weight.
I really would like to know how it goes e-mail me @ peacebgie@hotmail.com and ill get some pics 2 you I too started this project as my first and still have a long ways to go for more understanding. I just found out about the micro engines and their gear boxes.
The Fly'n Panda
Merry Christmas Happy New Year
How many channels do u need and is it gas or electric? Mine will have electric engines which will each be on their own channel to help turn left and right my servos are located in the main wing and in the booms the rudders each will be linked into one channel once adjusted the landing gear i have not decided on however it is built retractable according to the plans and the covering is ultra coat for more streangth and less weight.
I really would like to know how it goes e-mail me @ peacebgie@hotmail.com and ill get some pics 2 you I too started this project as my first and still have a long ways to go for more understanding. I just found out about the micro engines and their gear boxes.
The Fly'n Panda
Merry Christmas Happy New Year
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Xanadu
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Here are 4 build threads that are for the P-38 converted to electric power.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=155257
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=769469
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthre ... 4819&pp=15
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthre ... st13143634
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=155257
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=769469
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthre ... 4819&pp=15
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthre ... st13143634
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The Flying Panda
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Hey i had an idea what about building a guillows model putting an ultra coat type skin on and once the model is built getting some kind of spray in foam and injecting it into the model for added strength especially once you have removed uneccessary weight? has any one herd of this sort of thing? you know how they spray foam into walls for insulation what about doing this to hold parts in place such as a motor or a reciever/battery compartment.
The Fly'n Panda
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